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This came to me as 'Fire and Ice', which it obviously is NOT.

Any thoughts as to its true identity?

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Allegan Fog or Alley Oop have that "style". That edge is neat. Great looking plant.
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If the centers turn white, it could be Ghostmaster.
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First two that came to mind for me were Aleghan Fog and Ghost Spirit. Good luck with ID.
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It sure looks like Ghost Spirit to me, but a lot of plants have been sold with that name that have a very white center. I think those have been renamed as Ghostmaster.
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My 'Ghost Spirit' looked like that when I got it but in subsequent years it has had a much whiter centre.
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Thank you all for your guesses.

I do have a 'Ghost Spirit' -immature- and comparing the two I'd say this one is more blue than GH's green, and this one emerged misted, whereas GH emerges white-centered for me and the misting develops later in the season, that's what threw me. Let's wait until it flowers to see if we can get any closer, and this may well prove to be one whose identity may not be certain for a year or more, once it has gone through a complete growing season.
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yup... not the Alegan Fog group - those are undulatas and always have green, not the blue that's obvious in this one... I'm a sucker for misted centers but mine haven't emerged yet, so I'll have to watch and see if I have any hints. In any case, it is a pretty plant!
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OK, so here it is side-by-side with my 'Ghost Spirit', which for me doesn't mist-up until later in the season.

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I would go with Allegen fog too but it's so strange how garden centres here label plants wrong. Patriot was a Cordelia (I got it anyway) and Liberty turned out to be Queen josephine pah
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Of the plants likely to be in a nursery, I'm guessing Winfield Mist. Check out the hosta library, particularly the third picture which is a youngish plant early in the season. It's a sport from Winfield Blue and has good blue in the spring. The centers will probably get much whiter and the mist may disappear and the blue margins on mine become green by mid-season.

This is a Zilis Q&Z release and has been available generally for, I think, a couple of years. Actually, I don't see it in their catalog this year. My excitement for the plant waned as it didn't hold its misting well for me... but I think you got quite a novelty in place of Fire and Ice (which has a place of honor on my "losers" list anyway...)

Mine is only 1/2 inch out of the soil, so I can't do a comparison!

http://www.hostalibrary.org/wx/winfieldmist.html
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I also say it looks like Ghost Spirit. Who knows how long it was grown before being sent (could have been white earlier, making them think it was really Fire and Ice at first), and actually my Ghost Spirit here are all starting to get misted already and they've all been quite variable.

I doubt that someone would have a Winfield Mist mixup, and it doesn't really look like that to me. It is definitely a mixup with something.
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